Ric Casale from Carbon Copy on why we need to stop talking about net zero

Hannah's guest for this episode is Ric Casale, co-founder and trustee of UK climate action charity, Carbon Copy.

He is known for his work, Civic Revolution - A Citizen's Guide, about the power of collective local action to address the climate and nature crisis.

Enthusiastic about disruptive innovation for social and environmental good, Ric has also studied renewable energy with the European Institute of Innovation & Technology (EIT) and urbanism at the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE).

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